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THE WHITE HOUSE
Office of the Press Secretary
For Immediate Release
December 8, 1999
PRESS CONFERENCE BY THE PRESIDENT
Dean Acheson Auditorium
The State Department
[excerpt]
Q Mr. President, some of your critics have suggested that the reason
that you pressed the issues of the environment and labor at the WTO
meeting in Seattle is to benefit the presidential candidacy of Vice
President Gore, knowing that there might be a backlash from the
developing nations. How do you respond to that?
THE PRESIDENT: That's wrong. And I would like to make two comments --
one on the WTO ministerial meeting, and secondly on that general issue .
The Uruguay Round was launched in 1986. The trade ministers started
trying to launch it in 1982. It took them four years to get it off the
ground. The fundamental reason a new round was not launched here had, in
my judgment, very little to do with my philosophy of trade, which I'll
talk about in a moment. There were -- the big blocks here were the
Europeans and the Japanese, on the one hand -- the United States and the
developing nations, we all had positions that couldn't be reconciled.
The Europeans were not prepared at this time to change their common
agricultural policy, which accounts for 85 percent of the export
subsidies in the world. The Japanese have their own agricultural and
other issues to deal with.
The United States was not prepared to change its policy on dumping,
because -- and I think the recent Asian financial crisis justified that,
I might add. Even though we did finally move under our dumping laws, and
we had to move, to try to keep our steel industry, which took down 60
percent of its employment and modernized during the '80s and the early
'90s, we still bought 10 times as much steel during that crisis as the
Europeans did.
The recent WTO agreement we made with China protects us from surges and
unfair dumping. We have the largest trade deficit in the world. Now, we
get a lot of good out it -- we get low inflation, we get goods from all
over the world. But there has to be some sense of fairness and balance
here.
And the developing nations, for their part, felt that they had not yet
gotten enough benefits from the last trade round and the entry into the
WTO. They think that we and everybody else -- the Europeans, the
Japanese, everybody -- they think we ought to have more open markets for
agricultural products, which doesn't affect America so much, and for
textiles, which does affect us. That's the big issue being negotiated
still with the Caribbean Basin and the Africa Trade initiative.
So it's very important that you understand that there were real
differences that we thought we could bridge, unrelated to labor and the
environment, which we couldn't; and which I think would have been
clearer, but for the backdrop of the demonstrations in Seattle over
these other issues.
Now, to your second question. When I ran for President in 1992, and the
big issue being debated was NAFTA, I said that I wanted to be for NAFTA,
I would fight hard for it, but I felt strongly there ought to be
provisions on labor and the environment in the agreement. And those
provisions were included. I have always had what I guess you would call
a third way position on trade. I think the position of Americans,
including some in my party, that trade is bad for America and bad for
the world, is just dead wrong.
I think that the world is more prosperous and I know America is more
prosperous because of the continuing integration of the world's economy
and the mutual interdependence of people, and people being able to
produce what they produce best in a competitive environment -- including
costs. And I think we benefit, not just from our exports, but from the
imports. That's what I believe. I believe we will have both a more
prosperous and a more peaceful world if we have more of the right kind
of globalization.
I read -- one of the many, many articles that's been written in the last
several days in the aftermath of Seattle pointed out that many of the
world's most troubled places -- the Balkans, the Caucasus, Africa, to
some extent the Middle East -- suffer because they have too little
economic interconnection with the rest of the world.
I believe, even though I'm proud of the role that we've played and
especially proud of the role George Mitchell played in the Irish peace
settlement, I think it is unlikely that we would have done that if,
also, Ireland didn't have the fastest-growing economy in Europe and
Northern Ireland weren't growing and people didn't imagine that they
could have a totally different life if they just let go of what they've
been fighting over.
So the people who don't believe that trade is good, I just think they're
wrong. Now, having said that, I think that as the world grows more
interdependent, it is unrealistic to think that there will be an
international economic policy with rules unrelated to an emerging
international consensus on the environment, and an international
consensus on labor. That does not mean that I would cut off our markets
to India and Pakistan, for example, if they didn't raise their wages to
American levels. I know that's what the sort of stated fear was. I never
said that, I don't believe that.
But I think that -- let me give you an analogy. Several years ago, the
Europeans did this, and I applaud them -- they were actually the impetus
for protecting intellectual property more than the United States was --
and people debated that for years -- why, intellectual property has no
place in trade bills. Who cares if people are pirating books and selling
them for 60 cents apiece when they cost $20 somewhere else. And now, we
just take it as a given.
And it's a good thing for the United States. You think about all the
software we're exporting, all the CDs we're exporting, all the things --
intellectual property is a big deal to us now. It was just as alien a
subject a few years ago to trade talks as questions of labor and the
environment are today.
So I think I've got a good position here. It has nothing to do with this
campaign. It's a position I've had for years. And I believe the world
will slowly come to it. We do have to be sensitive to the developing
countries. We cannot say that, you know, you're out of here because you
can't have the same labor environment we do. But we also have to -- all
we ask for was to start a dialogue within the WTO on trade issues. On
the environment, all we ask is, is that the decision-making process not
degrade the environment when countries have environmental policies and
interests, and just blithely override them because there's an immediate,
short-term economic benefit.
I think that's right. And I believe that 10 years from now, somebody
will be sitting here, and we'll all take it for granted that we've come
a long way in integrating trade and the environment -- I mean, trade and
labor. That's what I think, and that's what I believe. |